Back Take from Turtle
Also called turtle back take, taking the back from turtle.
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- Type
- Control
- Ruleset
- Gi and no-gi
- Taught in
- All-fours survival · White belt
What it is
The back take from turtle is how you get from on top of a turtled opponent to back control: chest on their back, seatbelt, one hook in, then either roll them over on top of you or break them down flat. Back control scores 4 points once the hooks are in and held. The order is fixed: seatbelt before hooks, hooks before the choke.
When to use it
- They turtle to avoid a pass or after a stuffed takedown.
- They come up to their knees from side control or a scramble and stay there.
- They try to stand or sit out from turtle and their back is turned to you.
How to do it
- Get your chest on their back with your hips behind theirs.
- Lock the seatbelt: top arm over the shoulder, other arm under the armpit, hands joined with the choking hand hidden underneath.
- Put in the near-side hook, heel inside their thigh.
- Roll: fall to your side on the hook side and pull them over on top of you as you hold the seatbelt.
- Or break them down: drive your hips into them and pull them flat onto their belly.
- Put in the second hook and settle into back control.
Key details
- Seatbelt first. The grip keeps you attached if the hook or the roll goes wrong.
- Chest to back the whole way. Any gap is space for them to turn in.
- Roll with them, not under them. They land on top of you with your chest still on their back.
- Hooks inside the thighs, never crossed.
Common mistakes
- Mistake: forcing a hook in with no seatbelt. They sit out or roll and come up facing you.
- Mistake: rolling with the seatbelt loose. They fall away and land on top in side control.
- Mistake: reaching under the arm with nothing else. They trap it and roll you over.
What they will try
- They sit out or turn toward you before the seatbelt locks.
- They grab your hands and peel the seatbelt as you roll.
- They keep their elbows on their knees so the hook cannot get in.
Train it on the Path
Reading is the start. The All-fours survival unit drills the back take from turtle in short lessons.
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